I'm born and raised there. Moved away 22 years ago but any time anybody asks me where I'm from I don't say Columbia, Maryland. I say I'm from Pittsburgh. It's just like that.

I grew up in the Hill District. Back when Kent Nix was quarterback we used to park cars in the neighborhood; in driveways; in open fields. Make a couple bucks. Then head over to the old Pitt Stadium. You could stand up on the hill up there just across from the VA hospital and below Falk School and see half of the field. So we would watch the game when the teams were in that half of the field. By the fourth quarter the ushers would take pity and let us in for nothing.

I go back to when we were 1 and 12.

I got a chance to get down to the field once when the Giants played there. Saw a local kid from my old high school, Schenley, that made it all the way to the NFL. His name was Francis Peay. He played for the Giants. He gave me his jersey that day.

Later I got a job selling concessions at the old Three Rivers. I was never old enough to sell beer, but I could make a couple of bucks hustling cokes. By the fourth quarter most of us had given up selling anything and just watched the games.

My brother used to work in a stereo store in Shadyside called the Listening Post. He got some tickets to a game one day and decided to take me. We were down by a point real late in the fourth quarter so my brother and I decided to get a jump on the traffic. We walked down during a time out and stood at the back of the Steeler end zone up in the 200 level boxes. Wanted to see the last play. It was sure to be a Hail Mary from the quarterback that everybody was calling dumb even then. So on fourth and ten, Bradshaw dropped back and put it up. It pops up in the air after a collision between Frenchy Fuqua and Jack Tatum. And Franco Harris, from out of nowhere, catches the ball down near his shoelaces and rumbles in for what has got to be one of, if not the greatest finish to any football game ever. I swear to you it looked like the entire stadium levitated.

Finally, with my brother once again, we stood downtown at the corner of Fifth and Wood, cattey corner to Kaufmann's clock when they won the first Super Bowl. Just stood. Out in the cold. Screaming our bloody heads off. At anyone. At everyone. At no one in particular.

We won.

So if that's true? If not just a team but a city won? If what happaned was a way of playing the game and of doing business prevailed. If that's true. Then right now? Damnit we should be ashamed. We should be disgusted. At the entitlement; at the priviledge, at the arrogance, at the lack of accountability on display. Yes I know they're football players not choir boys. I get that. But that girl? She could have been somebody's sister, she may one day be someone's mother, and she is damn sure right now somebody's daughter. And given the accounts that have come out? No one should be allowed to treat her that way. I don't care if she's passed out drunk on the floor.

So look, it's simple: I am disgusted. Let's go back to 1 and 12. Fine by me. I'll keep buying the jerseys. Keep wearing my Black and Gold jacket down here in Washington DC. And we can go back to being proud of the way we play the game, the way the organization goes about conducting itself.

We can hold our heads up. In the Pittsburgh I left behind and the one that's still in my head it was about being proud of what and who we were, and how we went about doing what we did.

Win lose or draw.

- Al D.

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Why should Ben get a free pass?

• Why not negatively crtique every word, every moment of Ben's body and the clothes Ben wore when making his public apology?
• Why not make Ben hold a news conference in front of the local and national media, answer every question and explain what happened that night?
• Why not require Ben to attend rehab?
• Why not watch every move Ben makes on and off the field?
• Why not attach a microphone to Ben's helmet so the entire world can hear every word he speaks when he is on the field, except when he is calling plays or talking to coaches?
• Why not have the NFL Commissioner go on national TV and chastise Ben for all the world to hear and explain how he let everyone down and should not be a role model for our children?
• Why not have airplanes flying over the stadium with banners about Ben's behavior?
• Why not follow his family around and take pictures of them?
• Why not require Ben to prove his behavior will change and have the national sports announcers like Jim Nantz ready to crticize him on any slip up?
• Why not require Ben to answer at least one question about his behavior in every interview with a sports commentor after every game?

Why not?

- Tim T.

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I organize a Steelers fan club with over 240 members in the Washington, DC area. I not only support Ben 100%, I will wear his jersey proudly this upcoming season.

Your questions are asked in such a way as to invite negative comments. It is THE MEDIA making this whole situation out to be worse than it is. Having been born and raised in Pittsburgh and a Steeler fan all my life, I am outraged by the negativity surrounding this story and the fans who are jumping on a wheel-less bandwagon designed by THE MEDIA. Never have I seen an issue divide Steeler nation such as this one has because THE MEDIA are actively seeking negative aspects of the story.

If THE MEDIA runs Ben Roethlisberger out of Pittsburgh, I will follow him to any new team that takes him and root for them, turning my back on the Steelers and their fans forever.

- Wendy C.

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What kind of fan would you be if you bailed on the Steelers, or for that matter, Big Ben. There were no charges, so as far as I am concerned, it is a "he said, she said" matter, and I believe Ben. I hope this all goes away soon. I love the Steelers and adore Big Ben.

- Virginia G.,
Palo Alto, Calif.

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While I am not happy with Big Ben's legal situation, my passion for the Steelers has never been stronger. I admire the way the organization handles itself during good times and adversity. I have a daughter and we will proudly display our Ben jersey and steelers gear. This in no way should have an affect on the Steelers organization as a whole. Also, the internet is still new and there are people creating numerous online ID'S to try to create a false impression, that there are soooo many people torn by this. I know one guy personally, who is a Cowboys fan by the way, who has atleast 50 user names. He could careless about the girl,...he just wants to bash the Steelers. I think this is just a product of the Steelers success, taking a shot at them. Now, I don't excuse Ben's actions ...nor the girls ...but these things happen every day and if Ben were not rich and famous, this would not even be an issue.

I have been a Steelers fan since the 70's and always will be. Don't listen to these online fakers, nor the ones pretending like they are Steelers fans. I truly hope the Rooneys wont be swayed by this and they will use the same, fair minded judgement they always have....and just go by the information they've received. I have been a Steelers fan since the 70's and always will be.

GO STEELERS!!!!!

- Levi N.

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First of all, I think that the Rooneys HAVE acted quite properly. There has been no coverup from the Steelers, and yet they moved deliberately so as to allow the facts to come out. So YES, I am still a citizen in Steeler Nation. However, I am planning on disposing of my number 7 jersey.

Also, can the PG please stop publishing more details. Enough already. The whistle has blown.

- Ken R.,
Meadville, Pa.

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I just want it to go on record that I am and always will be a steeler fan for life. I've been a fan since I was 12 years old and will continue to be one no matter what. I will support Ben as our quarterback for as long as he is our quarterback.. I am of the opinion in cases of "he said, she said" there is no right answer... just wanted to coment on your question in todays Post Gazette. Also, I am a 50 year old woman.. just so you know.

Thanks

- BLF

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As a life long Steeler Fan I am sickened and saddened.

Ben Needs to be Traded, The sooner the better, Heck just cut him.

I have always taken great pride in the fact the Steelers, more so than any team in professional sports, do not allow players to act inappropriately.

To have the Steelers compared to the Bengal when it comes to such things makes my stomach turn.

If the Steelers were to get rid of Ben and lose every Game for the next 2 or 3 years as a result, I'd be just as proud of them as I was when they won number 6.

Maybe more so.

The Steeler Brand deserves better, Steeler football is about football, not side show flashy players, Nor Cheerleaders,, certainly not criminals (albeit Ben is innocent in our legal system. doesn't mean he's innocent in my book)

Its not even a matter of Guilt or Innocence, Its the fact that Ben allowed himself to be in the situation, the DA was right he needs to grow up.

we need to trade him or release him, the RUST on the Steel foundation needs to be cleaned before the building crumbles.

The Steelers deserve better

the Rooney's deserve better

The fans deserve better

most of all, My 4 year old son that I am raising a Steeler fan... He deserves better,

No chance I can tell my son "Look, there's Big Ben" as if he's a Hero EVER again.

- Glenn P.,
Tucson, Ariz.

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I understand how serious the situation is concerning Big Ben and Holmes. However, I believe the team is cutting its nose off to spite its face. The offense is built around Big Ben, his strength and weakness taken into consideration when the offensive gameplan is devised. Anyone who tells you that Batch or Nixon can run the team effective and expect to win is not living in reality.

I do not want to hear at midseason the Rooney family bitch and complain about not having a receiver who can stretch a defense or the miserable record the steelers have when Big Ben returns (if he returns). The Steelers under Rooney's decision will be become the Alice (bitch) of the AFC North.

The later days of Bubby Brister and Chuck Noll, when they struggled to win five games a year are here again.

I AM SICK OF BIG BEN AND THE STEELER ORGANIZATION!!!!!! I have thrown out all my steeler attire and torn off all the stickers from my car. TO HELL WITH THEM!!!!!

- Rob

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I am in the process of having my #7 jersey altered.

I am removing "ROETHLESBERGER" and replacing it with "RAPISTBERGER"

I will not wear the revised jersey to games but will selectively wear it around town.

-Mike

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Although I am not a parent, I think I share the feelings of the Rooneys here. First, unconstrained anger at the repeat bad behavior of your child. Second, an intense desire for harsh discipline; Third, resignation to the fact that you still love that child and you want them to do well in the family and in the world. Lastly, a desire to somehow affirm the child while condemning the behavior. Like a parent, my views are a bit complicated.

Do I hate, Ben? Simply, no. Am I glad I didn't get the Roethlisberger authentic jersey? Absolutely yes!

As I see it (and mix metaphors), the count is two balls (two Super Bowl wins) and two strikes (the motercycle incident and the Milledgeville incident). He can take his base on balls, but he is one strike away from sitting down, probably for good in Pittsburgh. It's up to Ben how this actually plays out.

- Lydia Y.,
Wilmington, Del.

P.S. I know some fans would count the civil lawsuit as a strike, but I wouldn't in this case.

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I'm currently living in Vermont, soon to move to Boston, but I'm a born and raised Pittsburgher and will always remain part of Steeler Nation. As someone who fights against sexual violence and is committed to the vision of a culture without rape, I'm deeply troubled by Ben's actions. I get the whole "an athlete is not a role model" dialogue and can believe that yes, in some situations it is legitimate to not expect our athletes to be role models. Those situations, however, do not and I hope never will exist in Pittsburgh. Plus, I think that attitude is typically applied to situations of recreational drug use or other situations involving poor decision making and substance use.

I do not believe there is ever a situation where sexual violence, alleged or confirmed, can be taken lightly and be dismissed on grounds of an argument that an athlete is not a role model. To me, that argument gives permission to men in the form of "if you make it to the top, it doesn't matter what you do." This completely debases the history and essence of Pittsburgh. It's a classist statement that not only hurts our women, but does our men a serious disservice. It tells men, or anyone for that matter, that at the top you can be above the law or above all moral order. In a city that was built on the backs of immigrant labor, men and women who gave everything just to inch out a living for their children, this trajectory is disgusting. Our city is built on people that work harder to get ahead, not people that work harder to get ahead and get above the law. Simply, Big Ben does not represent us -- and I will no longer represent him.

I've never owned a Ben jersey, in fact I've never realy liked him. Something about him never quite seemed right and it felt like a matter of time before his true colors showed. Sadly, I was right. What will I do? Living in Vermont, its hard to do what I really want to do. I'd like to get TShirts made that say "I support the Steelers, not Big Ben". I'd like for them to have a message on the back about ending sexual violence. Then I'd like to have the proceeds from their sale go to local organizations that work against rape, sexual violence, and domestic violence. I'd like to see the company that made the Big Ben Jerky (who thankfully pulled his sponsorship) create a "Don't be a Jerk" flavor, and send part of the proceeds to the above mentioned organizations. I won't stop loving the Steelers, but I'd rather see us lose without him than win with him any day.

- Lindsey C.,
Burlington, Vt.

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Thank you for the opportunity to sound off on this subject. First, I should begin by explaining that I'm a South Hills native and lifelong fan of the Pirates, Penguins, and Steelers. I moved to central Maryland in the early nineties to pursue a teaching career and have always flown the Pittsburgh colors with pride.

Heck, I even have a Pirates sticker on my truck (I really do believe we'll finish above .500 this season, honestly). So, what does this lifelong, hardcore, unwavering fan think of Ben? I think he's disgusting.

My 14 year old daughter has informed me that, even though he's 'not guilty' she won't be wearing the number 7 jersey I bought for her two years ago. And this makes me more proud of her than the day she wore that same jersey to Ravens stadium and waved her towel at a very hostile home crowd.

Unfortunately, no matter what Ben does, whether he shaves his 'pennsylvania surfer hair-do' and dresses in a suit, whether he apologizes endlessly, whether he brings another five, ten, twenty, championships to Pittsburgh, my daughter will never again wear that jersey. And for a very good reason.

I've heard many people say he's not guilty. I disagree. He is guilty of inviting a horde of underage girls into a VIP lounge, plying them with liquor, and then instructing his companions to lead one into a small bathroom. He is guilty of being a confirmed lout and he is guilty of wasting $65.00 of my hard earned money on a Jersey that isn't hardly good enough to serve as an oil rag in my garage. Then again, crumpled, smelly, and covered in grease may be the most appropriate end for Ben's jersey.

The difference between Ben and other players whose off the field behavior landed them in hot water is that Ben's infractions are of a decidedly creepy nature. Even Santonio's chronic love of, well, chronic, isn't enough to make me toss a perfectly good, and not exactly cheap, jersey.

Does all this mean I won't watch? No, I'm a fan, I can't give up on my team and I'll root for them when they take the field. But, would I cheer a little louder if Big Ben weren't on the sidelines? Yes, I would. Would a moral stance be worth sacrificing play-off hopes? Yes, it would. After all, even if our record without a creepy predator made us the laughing stock of the league, I would waive my Pittsburgh colors with a different sort of pride.

- Rich H.

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I've been a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers, like many, since I was very young. I love the team, but as I have grown older, I have realized that my pride as a Steelers fan, resides just a much in the win column, as in the integrity of the team, the Rooney family and the city of Pittsburgh.

My Family is from the Harrisburg area but we feel a great sense of connection to the city of Pittsburgh. We regularly make the three hour journey to watch Steelers, Pirates, Penguins and Pitt Panther games. This fall I am proud to say, my daughter is graduating from High school, a National Honor Society Member, and will be attending Duquesne University. She is also an avid fan and shares my views as well.

I am currently embarrassed for myself, my family and especially the Rooney family and the families of the players and coaches. I wonder what their families must be feeling and what the Coaches feel when they arrive to work every day knowing they are working with Ben. What is Ben's mother thinking? I, unlike others, am not convinced time will change these feelings. Betrayal is not something that is easily forgiven. Currently, it gives me a knot in the pit of my stomach that just doesn't feel right. I know some will say I am overreacting, but it's just how I was raised and who I am as a person. I cannot change that. I cannot and will not change my moral compass.

My heart remains with the team, but not with Ben Roethlisberger. I cannot support a player that disrespects his family, his team, his fans and his city. I wonder how I will feel when he throws his first touchdown pass this year? I am afraid that I will not experience the true passion and excitement for the game with him still on the team. Honestly, I would rather have a few season of rebuilding than root for a player that I have lost all respect for.

Please Mr. Rooney, return our franchise to true greatness, one not of just Lombardi trophies, but one of high respect, honor, character and values. Please trade Mr. Roethlisberger.

- Greg D.,
Lancaster

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Yes that's correct, Little Ben. That's how I view Steelers quarterback Ben Rothlesberger. True fans, like myself, are furious over his off the field behavior. Let me say this up front, there is a little thing called Conduct Unbecoming. No he was not arrested, but by his own admission to the Rooneys, Bens conduct was without a doubt UNBECOMING. So the fact that you have these supporters that say, "Hey leave him alone, he did nothing" all I can say is WRONG!

So what will become of all this? More than likely a fine and a few games off the field. I for one would like to see the Steelers show him the door, but that won't happen unless some blockbuster deal comes together on draft day. What does Little Ben have to do to make me say yes he should be a Steeler? Well for one , lose the attitude Ben. Yea you got that 102 million dollar contarct, but that does not make you God. At 28 years old you are not a kid anymore, so start acting like a responsible adult. The next time you attend one of those benefit basketball games or anything else, stop and smile at the fans, and sign a few autographs for the kids. You know, the same kids that you now want to be a positive role model for. Start getting involved in the community, maybe ask Charlie Batch, or better yet give Jerome Bettis a call he will show you how it's done. Hire a positive PR manager, it worked for Will Smith in the movie Hancock. Seriously, you need someone that can show you what doors to open and what doors that should stay closed. And finally, Ben, STAY OUT OF THE BARS! Establishments bring you nothing but headaches, bad press and closed door sessions in the mens bathroom.

In closing, I hope that Little Ben does read ALL the responses from The Steeler Nation. I hope he sees all the news accounts that show his shirts marked down at 99% off. I hope he has finally learned from his MANY mistakes. If he does all that, and turns over a new leaf, then maybe this fan will say good job BIG Ben.

- Kevin L.,
Midland

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First I want to tell you I am a lifetime die hard Steeler Fan--grew up in Braddock Pa, I am a steel workers son -- first in family to get a college degree (from Robert Morris). Steeler Football is a passion I have had my whole life.

I was stunned at the joke of a trade Steeler management made with Santonio Holmes--this will go down as a really bad deal, not quite as bad as the deal for Brett Farve but bad. They got nothing. They should have held there poker cards until Brandon Marshall got moved and used Santonio as trade fodder during the draft. Horrendous move by management. I realize they are trying to clean things up and I am with them 100% but play your cards correctly,. They should be embarrassed, no matter how you look at it they should have gotten much more for him. I have heard they where going to cut him--they may have, but I doubt it. Stupid anger is written all over Santonio deal. dumb,dumb,dumb.

There is no way they should trade Big Dumb Ben ( BDB) now as they again will not get true value--and in this case it would be insane after the Santonio deal to let this management team negotiate a deal to move Ben, they cannot be trusted. They made a decision to set an example -- not a bad idea--what we got for setting that example is nothing. That's not good business, get emotions and anger off to the side and get value for your property. The get a big fat "F" in business negotiating skills.

Do not let the heat of the moment guide you during these times, calm cool decision making are a must. Management and ownership are so hot they are not making rational decisions. All you have to do is look at the Santonio trade. Stupid--he should have been packaged during the draft for at least a 2nd round pick this year and 3 the following year.

Hold the cards on Ben and prepare for next year to do a blockbuster deal for BDB. Do not let anger make you look more stupid then Big Dumb Ben.

The league is laughing out loud at the Santonio trade, and Steeler fans are in disbelief. There are a lot of GM's who would have paid more on draft day.

Concerning BDB, Bench Big Dumb Ben's Fat Butt and play Dennis Dixon and see what you have on game day with this kid. Is he the replacement or due you need to get another quarterback through the draft.

Please Cool heads must prevail--think what you would get for BDB if he was clean--America has a short memory--just look at Tiger. BDB will be worth alot more next year when this all settles down.

Steeler Ownership and Management need to be calm and make a plan for next year.

PS: I think Mike Tomlin is on the hot seat and should be -- Steeler management should not renew his contract until he gets some of these young players on the field. I am not thrilled with the drafts the Steelers have had since Mike has been in charge, nor are his assistants getting the younger players ready to contribute. He won with Bill Cowhers players don't forget it.

Its time for Mike Tomlin to shine as a teacher, player evaluator, coach and LEADER. I am rooting for him--and I think the entire Steeler nation is with him also. Its all about getting the right talent and leadership on the field. Including coaches.

- Shawn M.

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Ben Rothelisberger is a friend of my family. Namely my nephew and my parents who raised him. My nephew was his football center when Ben started for the high school team his senior year. I have been a Steeler fan since 1970 when I began to know what pro football was.

I was very excited when he was drafted by the Steelers. I knew what he would do for the game.

I saw Ben play several high school games and I can tell you that I never saw a high school quarterback throw the ball so much and as well. It was like watching a semi-pro quarterback just pick apart a high school caliber defense.

Since this second incident with Ben I have begun drawing a parallel between him and my nephew. Both of them seem to act the same way although my nephew does not have nearly the money and none of the fame that Ben has. Money is not the reason why Ben is getting in trouble. Even if he didn't make it big in the NFL I really feel that his condition is one that speaks to the generation and the area he was raised. My nephew has very little and scrapes pennies to get by each and every day but he continues to carry the attitude that he is bigger than life.

I am also a fan of Pete Rose and can begin to see how Ben may end up the same way. I feel that Pete should be in the hall of fame due to his contributions on the field. It is because of what happend to Pete that I lost interest in the game.

If Ben were to be traded to another team or released I feel that my love of the Steelers would diminish. There is no one who you would rather give the ball to when game is on the line than Ben. They play the game to be the last team standing in the end and no matter what the Steeler organization can't ignore that.

We all need to remember that just because he was accused of doing these things he was not charged with a crime. I am not looking the other way but he is in a position where anyone could come forward and say he hurt them in some way and he is immediately guilty in the eyes of the NFL and the Rooney's. This is wrong. You can't punish someone for being stupid. He has some growing-up to do. How about becoming part of the solution and mentor him rather than burn him at the stake.

Concerned Steeler Fan.

- Carl B.

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I am 42 yrs old and have been a Steelers fan for 34 of those years. I am not a Pittsburgh local, in fact I have never lived there. I am one of the Steelers Nation who lives elsewhere ... indeed most of us do. Ben is an elite QB. I suffered through Malone, Stout, O'Donnell, Brister, Kordell, Maddox, Bono, Blackledge, Miller, Tomczak, Graham ... am I missing any? Point being I love Ben as a player, but he has hurt this team and fans. Even during the lean years I could be proud of how this team operated ... for the first time in my life I am embarrassed as a Steelers fan. Ben needs to go. Even as a I say this I get sick to my stomach. Wins are not worth this. I can't believe i just said that.

P.S. I actually work in a steel mill ... unlike any of the Steelers fans in Pittsburg. I am one of 9 life long Steeler fans who work in the same department and feel the same way.

- Mark O.,
Mississippi

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In response to your questions, this situation(s) will never change my view about the team. I feel some of us (fans) share is the loyalty towards the black and gold and we can agree on the beliefs the Rooneys have set over the years while being in the NFL but where the line is drawn is when a situation like this occurs and the decision the front office has to make and while we as fans draw our conclusion. Surely, some female fans of Steeler Nation have declared some anger towards the team and Ben and some male fans may go based on since he's not guilty, all is well and life goes on. First and foremost, I have to ask myself is it right to villify the man, and I say 'no' because I don't have a Heaven or hell to put this man in and we should be forgiving of our fellow man. Keep in mind, alot of people have already persecuted him. Granted, he's found not guilty but we have to be careful how we judge this whole scenario, and of course alot of side discussions can come out of this.

So if we no longer support buying merchandise, why not just take whatever Steeler paraphernalia we already own and dump it on the front steps of Heinz Field?!? Or is that a rush-to judgment?!?

Here's the flipside: the Duke lacrosse rape trial. A woman falsely accuses 3 men of raping her a stripper and the truth came out which was a lie. Should men take a stand by not spend money at Victoria's Secret?!? It may sound far-fetched but I think it's a test of allegiance.

Thank you for allowing me to respond to this and I hope I didn't you. As for me, I'm still gonna root for the Black and Gold, with or without Ben.

- Ray

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With their encouragement, I am cutting up my two daughter's # 7 game jerseys, my Steel City Ben t-shirt and will not ever buy any other BR items. My girls don't want the jerseys or anyone else to wear them. My sister tells me she will do the same. We concur.

Ben is to be forgiven, and I hope he reforms. However, I think he deserves to be removed from the league.

Michael Vick lost a few years and went to jail for abusing dogs, which is very bad. PacMan Jones missed a whole season for disorderly conduct in public and drug abuse.

Ben's abusing (raping) young ladies, the Steeler organization, and the NFL, cannot be dismissed. Even if not charged, the DA's comments, the police records, now available, witness statements, and Ben's sequence of calling and hiring attorneys makes it pretty clear. The Rooney family should cut Ben. And the NFL commissioner should suspend Ben for life.

He has, I believe, $30+ million signing bonus. He won't go hungry as he is out of the NFL and goes about pursuing his life's work. There has to be severe consequences for this behavior for the reputation of the Steeler organization and the NFL. This is so much worse that drug use and dog abuse.

When I attend the games this year, I absolutely don't want Ben on the field as a Steeler.

The organization and league will move on and be better for it.

- sv

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As a Father of 3 young girls and we are all HUGE Steelers fans, this has changed everything. I will always be a Steelers fan but i want Ben off the team now. I will NEVER root for him-in fact-i will be rooting AGAINST him from now on. You can see the dilemma this has put me in as a fan and a Father. If it wasn't for his $$$, he'd be on his way to jail for years. He's an embarrassment to the team and i want his stats expunged from the Steeler's books.

- Rob R.,
Eastlake Ohio

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For what it's worth, here's yet another opinion on the ongoing soap opera involving our all-world QB:

As the details continue to emerge, it's obviously an ugly situation in which no one was making clear/healthy/mature decisions, including both sets of 'entourages', the local cops on the scene, Ben and his accuser.

While he hasn't been charged with a crime in any of these incidents that we're becoming aware of, a clear pattern of behavior is now beginning to emerge and it's becoming increasingly difficult to defend his actions in any plausible way.

I've been a sports-watcher my entire life and have never been under any illusions regarding athletes and their ability to behave as role models, but I suppose I fall into the school of thought that says he's now operating on 'two strikes' from this incident going forward. Regardless of how many civic functions he attends, PSA's he records or charity functions he lends his name/face to, if he so much as gets a parking ticket I want him shipped out of town as soon as is humanly possible. I'm a life-long Steeler fan and have been on cloud 9 in that respect over the last 6+ years, but I'd rather linger in mediocrity if this is the price of 'success'.

- Jasen B.,
Seattle

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I am a FL resident, born in Pittsburgh, and as passionate about the Steelers as all those who claim to be their number one fan. I attended the Raider game last season, and try to make a game at least every few years.

As I watch my team every week on DirecTV, the cell phones are turned off, the land lines are off the hook, the curtains are drawn, and the doors are locked. Only family is allowed to watch the game with me, and that doesn't include all family.

Why is Steeler football the only thing in my life I am over board and fanatical about? As I have explained to my wife (a former Orlando Magic Dancer but not really a football fan), the Steelers make you proud to be associated with the organization! No, not because they have won more SB'S than anyone, but because they draft and employ good men. Men we are proud of, men easy to root for, men who are humble and appreciate the privilege and opportunity they have.

Will I travel to see the Steelers led by Ben in the future ... so far, NO. I am disgusted with his rude, cocky entitlement attitude, and embarrassed for the accusers who might not be perfect in their behavior as well, but the rich and famous athlete has to be the one to not put himself and others in these dangerous situations!

I am mystified that the Steelers are not taking a stand and suspending him until the other legal mess in Nevada is cleared up!!! How can you let him back as the leader, when another distraction is eminent due to the Nevada case ... I would inform Ben that he was given the benefit of the doubt on the first accusation, but even if they are both unwarranted, just putting himself in the position to have trouble of the same nature brings the consequence of suspension until you have NO problems! Either suspend him until ... Or trade him!!!

Thank you so much for letting a real fan vent to a voice that might have an input in this nightmare!

- John C.

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Thirty four years separated the draft picks of Terry Bradshaw and Ben Roethlisberger. Do we want to see the Steelers get their next Super Bowl winning quarterback in 2038?!?!?!? I know I don't. The 100 Million Dollar Man should know better than to hang with under age drinkers. That much is clear. If he did nothing wrong sexually he would still be guilty of horrible judgment in this regard, thus he IS guilty of THAT; horrible judgment; but is it enough to cut ties? Do I think they should hang themselves and get rid of Ben? No. IF the man were found guilty, after being charged, after overwhelming evidence of his guilt (NONE of which has occurred) THEN I would say "enough is enough -- let him go play for a bunch of losers." At this point it would be premature to part ways with him. I think what he did sucks. I think what we don't know that he did is probably worse. I think Santonio Holmes is an idiot for documenting his drug abuse on Twitter. I think that was it. It showed a lack of understanding; a lack of having learned from his previous mistakes. If Ben shows, from this point forward, that he hasn't learned from his mistakes then and ONLY THEN should the Steelers let him go. However IF the man were a rapist, as people want to call him, I think there would be sufficient evidence to prosecute. If he is a rapist, that's worse than Michael Vick. The only things worse would be allegations of murder or child molestation. I can think of a couple men that fit those descriptions and I think it's so ironic how America picks and chooses who they forgive.

I feel a special connection to Ben Roethlisberger having lived on Dixie Highway in Lima, Ohio in 1989, across the street from Ben. He was at my side when my dog got hit and killed by a hit and run driver. He was at Dan Protsman's house, who, ironically was my football coach for the Shawnee Chiefs in the Amos Alonzo Stagg league of pee wee football, years earlier. I know his family is close but trust me, he lived with Dan Protsman, and his mother who was still alive, at that time. So, personally I went through a horrible experience losing my Cocker Spaniel, Major, and he was there with tears in his eyes, just like all of us. I am sure this moment remains in his memories and intensified his love for dogs. Adrenaline flows and those memories while they flow remain. I am 100 percent sure he'd remember this. Any way... I know what happened and felt a closeness with that kid. I see him a little different, I think, than most because of this.

I was born in Sewickley and have bled Black and Gold for 38 years. I was so glad when they got Ben. I personally emailed with Ed Bouchette for years on a regular basis. I swear in 2004 I mentioned to Ed, my "excitement to see the rookie play", Ed then asked Alan Faneca if he felt excited to see the rookie play and his reply made Steeler history. I thought it was ironic that I said that and he asked Alan that. Maybe everybody was saying that and I'm not alone in that regard I don't know...

I run a neat website that is largely devoted to the Steelers. It is simply my name. There you can see all 4 70s Steelers Super Bowls, a couple great Penn State games that I youtubed from my old tapes I am a Pennsylvanian through and through. I have been writing for years on that site about the Steelers as you will find archives back to 2007 -- the Steelers Dossier there I started last year, doing most writing as time permits. I'd love to have your kind of job. I work for myself as an internet marketer but I would love to merge my passion in these two areas and make a living at it. I admit last year I was so disgusted I stopped writing in early November. My favorite piece is actually very blunt about a fan's guide to Steelers winning and losing. See that here. But I'm also a football prognosticator with the picks I've made documented. I edicted the Steelers would win the Super Bowl in '08. I accurately pick over half the division winners, many of the wildcard teams, I had 63 percent accuracy last year, week to week, and get this -- 61 percent accuracy with my PRESEASON picks. I think I know football... I love the Steelers.... I love Ben.(also there are Van Halen songs on there, unreleased, never before heard that I made videos of, there's video of the fish I pet, the squirrels I feed by hand, my glorious birds -- I'm a video making nut basically!) Also there are actual football playbooks used by NFL and College teams there including the 1970s Pitt Veer Offense. I have INTENTIONALLY not put up the 2004 Steelers Offense Playbook which I have....

Well, you got an earful. I hope it's okay. I ramble, I know, but this is a subject I am very passionate about. My site and all the content is something I am very possibly fanatical in my passion. Let me know what you think of my take on Ben, the other things, my Steelers stuff -- especially that Steelers Fans Guide To Winning And Losing. I love that.

Oh, and by the way, in no way does it make me less passionate about the Steelers, all Ben's mishaps; I am currently not wearing my Roethlisberger jersey in public but I wear all my Steelers jerseys (12 in total) and will never stop. He's just embarrassing. He needs to have some time go by with no news like these stories. It really is a disgrace. He is better than he has shown. He should call Bradshaw. Those men have my dream job. Terry Bradshaw still is a Steelers quarterback, despite being retired. 'Always will be. It's like my affiliation with the Marine Corps. Once a Marine always a Marine. So it is with the Steelers. If I got the job, and even at 38 I can whip it over 60 yards still, you'd better believe I would be only seen in a suit, I would only address my elders as "sir" or "ma'am" and I would be enthralled in the opportunity to be a role model. That's a special place to be sitting -- as a role model. It changes a person, and as Jamie Dukes tweeted back to me once "Deion says success and wealth only make you more of what you are. I love that!" We were talking about great quarterbacks. I mentioned some idiocy and how shocking it is to me that a man cat get THERE and still not "get it". That's when Jamie and Deion said what they said and they're obviously right. Ben doesn't get enthralled being a role model. The wealth and power has made him only more of what he is. He needs to re-examine what that means. He needs to go back to the basics. Go to church. Confess. Get it off the shoulders! TALK to Terry. He's a great Christian. He can HELP Ben. He is THE MAN who Ben should confide in now. Even after chastising him Terry reached out and invited Ben to contact him. He said he won't do it but I think, and I know Terry thinks, if he does it, if he FESSES up, STANDS up, TRULY is accountable, he WILL get through this and reclaim some of his reputation. He can never regain it all. Magic Johnson lost a lot of credibility and he has it back -- but not all of it. He never will. It's the same thing here. I really think Ben CAN be the man for the Steelers another eight years. He can. Why throw it away? Why? It's insane! I thought I was saying "goodbye" and here I rambled more. If you made it this far, thanks!

God Bless You. Go Steelers!

- Chris Gossett

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I'm a born/breed Pittsburgher: I love my Steelers. But, I'm soooo disappointed w/Big Ben. He brings shame on the Steelers and the city of Pittsburgh.

I will not wear his jersey at all. I do not care if he wins another super bowl. I'd rather see him gone. No one is that important.

He should know how that he can't treat woman like they are a piece of commodity and then throw them away. How would he feel is something like that happened to his mother or sister or for that, for someone to do that to his mother and sister or the women in his family. What he did was rape no matter how you put it. I don't want a rapist on my team. For all intense purposes he should be in jail and registered as a sex offender

Why is a 28 year old man in a hanging out in a small town college bar and hanging out with a underage college student buying her drinks.

Does he not know that the drinking age is 21, they should have bought him on charges for giving buying drinks to a minor..

So, now you have to wonder about the case in Las Vegas.

You also have to remember Big Ben was not found innocent, they just did not have enough evidence to go trail.

I also like what the district attorney had to say. Grow up Ben you are leader of a great city and football team.

I'm in Atlanta, Ga. and every sports reporter and humane society made Michael Vicks life miserable and the owner of the Falcons got rid of Michael. Maybe the Rooney's should too and make this a building year.

I did not see or hear any remorse from Big Ben all l heard and saw say was him reading a statement that someone on his P.R. team wrote for him.

When he went to see the commissioner he did have a haircut but, all you saw was him chewing gum. You do not go to a meeting with your boss chewing gum. Again grow up Ben. He needs to also have someone to teach him how to dress t-shirts and jeans is not for him.

Sorry about the long e/mail but, I'm just soooo upset with him.

- Donna K.

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I would like to first point out that your question not only regards Ben Roethlisberger, but the entire Steeler organization. Most importantly it regards the principles of the ownership itself.

If you have studied the last three reported incidences (including the one in Vegas where the lawyer/client didn't press charges), you will find that all of them were very similar. They all involved Roethlisber using his star status to direct body guards, security, and maybe even off duty police officers to help orchestrate locking victims in a room with him so that he could have his way with them. A better term to use is RAPE!

Society in general tends to use denial as a number one defense mechanism to run from the truth when it is convenient to do so. I myself am a man of principles and choose to see things for how they are. My dilemma with this Roethlisberger issue is that I am a lifelong Steeler fan even though I haven't had the opportunity to set foot in Pittsburgh yet. I remember watching the glory days as a kid, and remember clearly the 3rd and 4th Superbowl victories. I have a lot of Steeler products, and I've seen them play a few times in person. I'm actually going to the Hall of Fame this year to see LeBeau get inducted. I've only missed viewing about 5 games total in the last 10-15 years, and I'm on the waiting list for season ticket ownership. I actually shed tears of happyness during the last two Superbowl victories. I'm also an avid Post Gazette junky, (even though my comments/questions regarding Roethlisberger are too "controversial" for Ed Bouchette to post on his Live Chat forums.

Aside from all of these years of blood, sweat, and tears following my favorite team, (which is a bit of an obsession) I am disgusted with Roethlisberger's off-field predatory tactics. But even more so I am disgusted with the Rooney family for even entertaining the thought of keeping him around. All of Art Rooney's efforts during his life as a Steeler owner have at this point been reduced to shame. I can guarantee you that the Steeler organization will go down as the black sheep of the NFL if Roethlisberger is on the roster when the regular season starts. It will even directly effect their overall sales. I can also guarantee you that Roethlisberger will not be able to contain his psychologically driven preditorial acts against females. He is "bigger than life" at the moment, and the slap on the wrist punishment he will receive won't stop his sickness from repeating itself. Neither will the Rooney's double standard message of trading Santonio Holmes for practically nothing.

Let me tell you a bit about rape. People who commit it don't do so for the sake of passion or "getting laid." It's clearly a power thing and it ruins the life of its victims. This type of problem can only be resolved with long-term therapy. The perpetrator of these types of acts should be removed from society, because he/she is endangering other people's lives.

To conclude I'll make it simple. The Steelers have a big dilemma on their hands regarding money issues and winning football games. But it can't compensate for enabling future sexual assault incidences. The Steeler ownership, staff, and players are being duped by Ben Roethlisberger. More importantly, the fans are being duped by the Steeler organization.

If I see Ben Roethlisberger on the field playing for Pittsburgh I will no longer support the franchise. I will simply move on and watch another team. I would only hope that in this scenario the rest of the "Steeler Nation" fan-base do the same, at least until this organization realizes the value of morals and doing good to others.

- Marc

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Regarding Ben, I know he is not a nice guy but he definitely is not a rapist.

Ben is boorish, arrogant, rude, and immature, but he is not a rapist. I believe the case in Nevada is a joke and I believe the case in Georgia has been inaccurately reported by the defendant, through the coaxing of her sorority friends looking for a big payoff which it looks like she got. No way Ben is going to rape a girl with what happened in Nevada, and the fact that he was with two Penn. cops-no way. Ben and the accusers may or may not have had sex but whatever happened it was consensual. The most telling evidence in my mind was what she told a cop when he asked had you been raped "no I was not raped", did you have sex, " I am not sure." Anything she said after this initial conversation with the cop is made up clearly looking for a big payout and she was backed up by her sorority sisters with a series of lies. What kind of girls are we dealing with when they use fake ids, drink to excess, and wear DTF shirts-real class acts that any parent would be proud of!

Ben was incredibly stupid to even put himself in this situation because he is an easy target by money grubbing females. When you are raped, you don't tell a cop that you were not. When you had intercourse, you don't say to a cop "I am not sure we had sex". This was clearly a setup and Ben only has himself to blame for even being out in public with excessive alcohol and partying late into the night.

Ben needs to grow up and he may have a drinking problem that needs to be addressed.

Regarding the Rooneys and the Steeler image, this will all blow over so long as Ben gets the message to behave and performs on the field. I have to laugh when I hear about the Rooney way- the Rooney way is clearly to make money and Ben clearly does this for them-no way they trade him so long as there are no more incidences-obviously he is on a short lease. I suspect he will get a two game suspension.

- Chris M.

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I am tired of hearing about Ben I wish the Steelers would trade him while they can still get something in return. He is obviously an arrogant jerk and he will most likely mess up again. At that point, they will either release him for nothing or get very little in trade.

He is an embarrassment to the team and the entire city. He will never be forgiven no matter how successful he is in the future. And if he does start to win again, do you really think that will make him less of a jerk??

TRADE HIM NOW!

- Paul B.

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I found an article on PostGazette while browsing the site via cell phone and when I came home to retrieve your email it was no longer there. The article was plain and simple; what effect did the Roethlisberger situations have on my views of the team. I must begin by saying I am a loyal fan since 1983 and have the bib and rattle to prove it. Im 27 years old and I now have a 14 month old daughter. My daughter will grow to be a Steelers fan as well. These recent situations involving Big Ben are embarassing. Typically I do not mind what a player does off the field because it is a sport and it is meant for entertainment and the field is what counts. I understand that a collection of men in a brutal and competitive sport will have its share of characters and with these characters come character flaws. Ben seems to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. He also seems to show poor judgement and immaturity. Granted, a lot of opposing fanbases have never liked Roethlisberger or given him respect, but now they actually have something for ammo. The one thing I have noticed are the once nuetral spectators who now have a negative view of Ben and the Steelers. There were people who enjoyed the sport and favored no particular team. Those people now forget about Bens' accomplishments and know only of his embarassing debacles. Forget those who never respected Roethlisberger; they never will. The loss of potential fans and neutral admirers is damaging. Ben is a great Quarterback and Im saddened that someone with so much ahead of him has no sight of the future. Its very damaging to himself, and he let a lot of people down. Its very hard to defend him because its easy to defend the stats he produces, but not the doubt he casts on his character for the situations he puts himself in time and time again. I would hate to see him traded as rumors have speculated. It was a blow to see Holmes traded, and it would be devastating to see Ben go. I would understand why, but I would never understand how he could be so immature and irresponsible and leave his fans and his team in a dark shadow. He is such a bright player and leader, and yet he casts this dark shadow by his actions. Its just sad. It isnt surprising because people of all backgrounds can have it all and fail so spectacularly. Thats whats so interesting in life -- What I wouldnt give to be in his shoes and yet I am glad not to be. It has been a long offseason and Im anxiously awaiting the start of the season; for time to pass to get over this mountain and get back to Steelers Football.

Forever a Steelers Fan

- Chris C.

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I'm certain that you'll receive several emails like this one, but I appreciated the outlet for my frustrations. I've followed the Steelers since my pre-teens, moving from Indiana to Michigan to Wisconsin, but never to Pittsburgh. I've been reading the Post-Gazette and Tribune Steeler sections every day for three years now, and have been overpaying for Sunday ticket so I never miss a game.

I'm in the camp of applauding the James Farrior contract despite him appearing to have lost a step because of all he's done for the team, and the many games I've cheered him on. I encourage the Rooneys to sign Hines Ward through the year 2050, just in case. When the Steelers won Super Bowl XL (the first of my lifetime), I decided that all was right with the world and that it was now okay to propose to my fiancee. I didn't sleep well for a week leading up to XLIII because I kept having dreams of how "our" pressure defense could spread the field against Arizona's passing attack. My co-workers fear me for two days following a defeat. My normal April is spent playing as the Steelers in Madden Franchise mode, reading mock drafts made by any and everyone, and counting the days to welcoming the newest addition to the franchise.

All that said, I dread picking up the sports section now. I haven't picked up Madden yet this year, and I haven't seen a mock draft. You asked, "Has it diminished [my] passion for the team?" The resounding answer is yes. Ben Roethlisberger has never been a favorite player of mine, despite all he's done for the franchise. There have always been rumors of his personality, his dramatic antics (broken toes, anyone?), and so on. Despite these shortcomings, he's still been a Steeler, and a very good one for the most part. He elevates the team from average to potentially great.

Speaking of potentially great, the Steelers franchise has not only long stood for winning, but also for "quality." I hate to be the umpteenth fan to harp about quality players, only to have someone like Mr. Bouchette (whose work I greatly enjoy) remind me about other problem players such as James Harrison or the men from the earlier dynasty, but: I DO care about the quality of the person as much as that of the player.

What makes cheering for the Steelers so easy is that it has truly been a great franchise. From the coaching stability to the (mostly) quality drafts to the respectable ownership, there's never been anything to cause doubt. I've found myself often questioning things like, "How can Patriots fans cheer for a jerk like Belichick?" "How can Ray Lewis still be the face of the Ravens?" Well, now here I am.

I've read various other fan posts, some of which I'm sure you'll receive, that make this argument: "I don't care what he does off the field, so long as he wins when he's on it." I do not understand this way of thinking. I suppose that to some folks, the men running around the field are simply a group of numbers. And perhaps that's how I should feel about it too. But when I've spent my Sundays (and the days in between) growing to know more about the men than just their numbers, I find it impossible to cheer for someone I simply do not like.

Steeler fans have been treated to quality men/players in guys like Aaron Smith, Charlie Batch, Hines Ward, and Troy Polamalu to name a few. I'm sure that these men are no saints, but their sense of decency certainly seems to outweigh any deviance. I'm afraid that, to this point, Mr. Roethlisberger's public image cannot make that same claim.

I can barely stand myself for writing it, but a truly quality organization wouldn't keep a man of his character around. Guilty or not, it certainly appears that he's not an outstanding citizen. Cutting Santonion Holmes, while applauded by me despite my disappointment at only getting a 5th rounder, only seems to cast a further shadown over franchise. I do not believe in the racism angle, but it certainly seems that the Steelers are showing their quality when convenient (Holmes, Cedrick Wilson) and making excuses when it's not (Roethlisberger, James Harrison.)

I do hope that I'm wrong, and that he's simply guilty of bad judgment and false/overblown media coverage. I would like nothing more than to continue to cheer him on for many years to come. However, the person he's been shown to be to this point overshadows anything he might do as a player. I hope I'm wrong about the franchise, and that there are behind-the-scenes workings that I'm simply not privy to. Giving second chances, perhaps, as opposed to third or fourth ones.

Because of these things, I not only feel out of place cheering for him, but for the team as a whole. For the first time in a little under 20 years, I'm not excited for the coming season. Rather, I'm dreading it. I don't know how to cheer for the defense, then leave the room if a #7 led offense is on the field (no jokes about this being standard fare for a #8 or #14 offense.)

In closing, should you have made it this far: I would rather cheer for a losing team led by Dennis Dixon or Charlie Batch, rather than half-heartedly watch a winning team led by Ben Roethlisberger.

-Adam G.,
Milwaukee

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Recently, I've read many reports of Ben Roethlisberger's indiscretions that focus on his failure to uphold standards consistent with the NFL brand and the Steelers franchise. However, Roethlisberger's behavior and conduct goes beyond image management. In a very public manner, Roethlisberger has shown that his reckless behaviors are not simply a few moments when he had a lapse in judgment. Roethlisberger cannot repair the damage he has caused, partially because that would require him fully disclose the level of responsibility he had the night of the alleged sexual assault so that he can atone for it. It's important to note that the absence of charges is not a finding of "not guilty." I cannot account for what happen between Roethlisberger and his Georgia accuser. However, I am deeply concerned that there are striking parallels between the statements provided by the accuser and observers present at the bar that night, and the Modus Operandi of "undetected rapists" studied by David Lisak:

"In the course of 20 years of interviewing these undetected rapists, in both research and forensic settings, it has been possible for me to distill some of the common characteristics of the modus operandi of these sex offenders. These undetected rapists:

• are extremely adept at identifying "likely" victims, and testing prospective victims' boundaries;
• plan and premeditate their attacks, using sophisticated strategies to groom their victims for attack, and to isolate them physically;
• use "instrumental" not gratuitous violence; they exhibit strong impulse control and use only as much violence as is needed to terrify and coerce their victims into submission;
• use psychological weapons -- power, control, manipulation, and threats -- backed up by physical force, and almost never resort to weapons such as knives or guns;
• use alcohol deliberately to render victims more vulnerable to attack, or completely unconscious. "

http://www2.ucsc.edu/rape-prevention/pdfs/PredatoryNature.pdf

My entire life I have identified myself as a Steelers fan, along with all my family members. Today, I know that the team cannot be successful until Roethlisberger has been removed. Art Rooney has said that "we intend to allow Ben the opportunity to prove to use he is the teammate and citizen we all believe he is capable of being." Many fans, myself included, do not believe Ben deserves this opportunity. Suspension is not enough. It is my hope that the Rooney's stay committed to important values of the franchise and listen to the fans when we say Roethlisberger needs to go.

- Laura M.,
Kentucky

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Considering the circumstance and the setting of the events in Georgia, as well as the age of Ben Roethlisberger and the 20 year old female college student, on its face value, both individuals are equally guilty of the absence of personal responsibility. Due to Ben's stature, position and responsibility to protect the integrity of the organization he represents, he bears the larger weight of responsibility, but this female college student is certainly is not devoid of accountability. If Ben receives some punishment for his actions, this girl should also be sanctioned on her campus for her behavior as well.

Due to Ben's position and the national reputation of the organization he represents, his ability to reclaim the dignity lost will be insurmountable in the eyes of the unforgiving, and certainly will overshadow the ability of this college student to reclaim hers due to her pseudo victim status in the eyes of most. Ben can gradually begin the process of regaining lost respect, to those open minded enough to accept personal failure as a part of living, by demonstrating positive behavior and by being an advocate for a cause related to his current downfall. Redemption for the fallen is possible, but for those who wear Ben's jersey, Ben's future behavior should dictate future loyalty and the brandishing of his number on game day.

- Bill